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This article misses some very key points...I'm hoping that they are addressed in later versions of it since this is only a "primer." Also, the formatting is terrible and makes it a horrid reading experience. You need to fix these before it can be a good primer.



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I think noODle will fix the formatting etc. and also make it span on multiple pages. It will take some time for him to get friendly with Admin Panel.



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Actually when I added the article the formating was okay.
Do I need to insert html tags for the alinea breaks andso?

No need for HTML tags. Its WYSIWYG editor with formating options like a Word Processor.



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The Editor is a bit buggy, I am working on a new one. Try it in Internet Explorer.



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Then switch to the HTML option which is available under the editor and edit the HTML manually.



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Writing a "primer" indicates that it's the first article in a series of articles. Either find another word for the title or hint as to what the next article will discuss. You do a terrible job of keeping the readers attention. I spend a great deal of my free time reading novels and magazines and scientific journals and even the most boring stuff in those publications I can read through.

You go as far as saying there are different bits in each of the TCP/IP frames...but you don't even touch the OSI model. You don't even talk about the different layers, what layer TCP/IP works at, etc... You go as far as saying bits, though you don't explain where you get the bits from. If you're going to prime people on TCP/IP, this is an absolute must.

You're missing a great deal of information and it doesn't read very well as it is. The formatting is still a mess and I find it extremely hard to read...even though I'm experienced in these matters.

Have you gone as far as explaining the octets of an IP address? Nope.

In complete honesty, it was a painful read. You have much to improve.



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I hope he would Improve it for sure Smile



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Heater you did not read shit.
Get the fuck outta ya bubble b.
I am out.



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noODle, you don't have to like me...my advice was constructive.



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No it was not. You did not even read the darn thing yet yeah decided to comment it.
Thenwhen asked a question you do not answer it.
That is not constructive.



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While I am at it:
prim·er1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prmr)
n.
An elementary textbook for teaching children to read.
A book that covers the basic elements of a subject.

I don't mind constructive comments but the things you said just do not cover any ground. Every single comment you have given is wrong.
Yes the OSi gets touched, Yes the Octets get discussed.
It is not a writing on the OSI which is never used anyway and it is not a tutorial about IP addressing.

Next time before you give comments to something AT LEAST get you facts correct.

The one thing you had correct was the layout which is the editors fault and not mine.



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As far as editing is concerned... if you do a copy paste from any word processor. That will work with the same word formating.



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No it was not. You did not even read the darn thing yet yeah decided to comment it.
Thenwhen asked a question you do not answer it.
That is not constructive.


I read the article and commented on it. I answered your question...whether or not you liked the answer is not my issue. It was not flaming and it was highly constructive.



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I was not saying you were flaming.
What I pointed out was that
a: you missed the meaning of the word primer.
b: you said OSI does not get covered but it does.
c: you said there was nothing on octets and once again you misread it.

I completely agree on the formatting but like I said the .txt is formatted pretty well but the editor freaxored it and I do not have the time to add all the BR's to it.

Do not get me wrong. I am all for constructive critisism but the things you pointed were incorrect.

Anyways
Have a nice day !

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I hit the meaning of primer on the money.

In order for a user to really understand the article, they need to know what the other OSI layers do for the process you're describing. You can't just skip from layer 3 (network) to layer 1 (physical).

Whether or not the octets were covered is irrelavent at this point in time. The original article I read DID NOT cover the octets. You must have added them at a later date.



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IMHO OSI is irrelevant.
TCP does not work according to the OSI but has its own networking scheme with less layers.



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IMHO OSI is irrelevant.
TCP does not work according to the OSI but has its own networking scheme with less layers.

No, it does work according to it. That's why they go through such great pains reinforcing your knowledge of how each layer corresponds to the OSI model.



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TCP works with four layers
OSI works with seven.



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quote:
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TCP works with four layers
OSI works with seven.

Yes, and each of the four layers corresponds to one or more of OSI model's seven layers.



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