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Poll: Which is buggier?
Windows 7 77.78%
*nix 2 22.22%
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What do you think? Which is buggier, Windows or Linux? And why?





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Of course windows... Tongue.

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The buggiest operating system is without a doubt *nix. If you count the sheer complexity of making thousands of packages cooperate with eachother. Every single one of which is from a different developer. Sorry *nix fans, but you're using the most buggy operating system ever. I assume the 2nd vote for Windows, thus far, is Ravish.

Barcode, other than your own opinion, which as far as I can see isn't even there as it was requested by Ravish. What makes you believe Windows is? Until I see some opinions of your own, wouldn't it be safe to assume that you're a sheep and just say what everyone else says. When you look at WindowsXP, you are looking at literally one of the most powerful, versatile, fastest, most uber kernel's ever made. You have no idea how powerful the WindowsXP kernel is.

Of course, we aren't talking the power of the kernal are we? We're talking which is the most buggy. I'm very OS neutral and I believe that gives me a unique perspective in this matter. I see the best and worst of both operating systems. I don't even believe that possible to determine. If you name any operating system you believe to be the best, I will point out that nothing is perfect. Everything has issues and there are ZERO exceptions.



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So, I just added another option for *nix.





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So, I just added another option for *nix.

I believe what should have been done is replace "Linux" with "*nix."



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Well... don't you think that this poll would be incomplete without windows?





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Well... don't you think that this poll would be incomplete without windows?

I believe Windows should be a choice. But, I also think you need to not single out just Linux. I think *nix should be removed and Linux (Where my vote was placed) should be made to *nix.



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Ok, done!





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You might want to agree me after reading following:

Microsoft leaves IE users "defenceless" to trojan attack: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9625

Microsoft Windows Media Player Automatic File Download and Execution Vulnerability: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/7640

Microsoft faces huge fine over security: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2134469,00.html

Multiple Vulnerabilities found in Microsoft .Net Passport Services: https://www.linuxadvisory.com/article55.html

Microsoft has been prooved un-secure from time to time.

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So has *nix Barcode.



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So has *nix Barcode.

I agree that *nix has. but not as dangerous as microsoft.

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So has *nix Barcode.

I agree that *nix has. but not as dangerous as microsoft.

To classify one operating systems bugs 'more dangerous' than another operating systems bugs is entirely arrogant. I'm sorry to keep coming down on you like this barcode, but you leave yourself so vulnerable. You can't simply say, due to a personal prejudice I have not fully come to understand, say that the bugs within Windows are more dangerous than those of *nix. You should really think about what you've just said, smack yourself for saying it then precede to think about why it's so arrogant.

Have a terrific day barcode.



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noODle, you started off right...but you kind of sounded more and more insecure about your opinion the more you typed. That's not good. Tongue



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What I meant to say is that (like said in this thread) bugs in *nix get fixed quicker then MS bugs.
You will have to patch more often though.

Not entirely true noODle... Smile



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Before I even had used *nix system I thought that it would be perfect because people were worshipping it so hard but when I did tried it noticed that it isnt perfect. I don't have much experience with *nix systems so I can't really say how buggy they are. My brief experiment with mandrake was full of tears and ended up in formact C: but that was my fault ... not the systems Smile I amaze why people say that winxp is crap. I think it's awesome. Never experienced any serious problems and those few minor problems I had were fixed in updates. I'm now on w2k (don't ask why) but xp is very good OS.



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i agree with u Telos XP is a good OS...but the goodness needs a big chunk of space...campared to *nix.............M$ gives a new OS out and increases its space requirements by large and now even the corporators are tired of the increasing size this OS takes ..... next comes the space required by HotFixes and SPs............

Being OpenSource a lot of bugs are found in *nix and if you have read a good lot of advisories....you would have noticed that the solution most of the time is given in the advisories itself in the form of edit this code the this and recompile or change this setting to this.........but for M$ you will have to wait for the Fix .... and the realse of the Fix depends on M$ .... you are in problem or not doesnt matter...



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i agree with u Telos XP is a good OS...but the goodness needs a big chunk of space...campared to *nix.............M$ gives a new OS out and increases its space requirements by large and now even the corporators are tired of the increasing size this OS takes ..... next comes the space required by HotFixes and SPs............

Being OpenSource a lot of bugs are found in *nix and if you have read a good lot of advisories....you would have noticed that the solution most of the time is given in the advisories itself in the form of edit this code the this and recompile or change this setting to this.........but for M$ you will have to wait for the Fix .... and the realse of the Fix depends on M$ .... you are in problem or not doesnt matter...

I agree! Nothing compares to open source.





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Would you believe it i told you that as i was writing this my machined bombed. Coincidence??? I think not Smile

Which is the buggier? Has to be *nix. Heather said it all with her first post. I could add my own post but I would just be echoing her opinion.

For me, people choose *nix over windows for one major reason. Control. Not because they believe that one contains less bugs or is more secure, but because in one hand they have complete control and in the other hand they have Windows. I agree with Ravish, Open Source rules.

But what about Mac? Does anyone have any opinions here? Personally I like Mac OS X. I don't own a mac capable of running Mac OS X, but I do own one. And i have to say I hate the thing. So much so that I installed linux onto it. But Mac OS X is a complete change from what I understand. Built on Mach3.0 kernel, BSD 4.4 and Darwin(Apples open source kernel project) it's more linux than Mac. If only if ran on x86 hardware Frown



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Well, WindowsXP is an incredibly powerful, robust and quick operating system. The WinXP Kernel is one of a kind and can actually be faster than any *nix kernel you see if the right things are done to it. Currently it's a terrific system and Microsoft has really struck gold. In a short few words...Linux/Unix just lacks the refinement that Windows and MacOS provide. That is their greatest downfall and I believe neither Linux nor Unix stand a chance hitting it big in the home market without that refinement.

The harsh reality in the corporate world can be summed up thusly: 1.)Once you are the top dog, you will not have a moment of piece. 2.)Your competition is nothing but a pack of rabid wolves. You can count on but one thing from them...they'll always be ready to take any scrap from your table and rip it to shreds over and over until every drop of blood from your rotting carcass is spoken for. 3.) Maintaining the top dog role requires some business tactics that the rest of us may not agree with, however, time and time again have proven effective.

I'm sure you all have heard the saying, "There is no such thing as bad publicity." You will all agree with me when I say that Microsoft gets shot by a firing squad every single time something bad happens. However, I feel that Unix/Linux should get the same treatment at times. RedHat gets the same treatment, which is good in my opinion...but we all know that the top dog will always be the first to be publicly humiliated in a carefully orchestrated attempt to gain any market share.

In reading the comments by xception, I would like to know if ya'll want my honest evaluation of MacOS X and the hardware. I will not go into depth here since it would be terribly off topic from the rest of my post. Smile Most of your arguments are valid, however, the above is a statement you can't argue with...some food for thought. Smile You all have a terrific day. Smile



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